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|'''How antagonistically can Abductors act?'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=587044#p587044 You can mess with the crew in many ways and create havoc, but are not allowed to just grab your baton and murderbone, or do things like sabotage the Supermatter crystal.]
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=616861#p616861 You can mess with the crew in many ways and create havoc, but are not allowed to just grab your baton and murderbone, or do things like sabotage the Supermatter crystal.]
|Oct 16, 2021
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|Dragomagol
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Версия от 00:06, 31 декабря 2021

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This is a compilation of headmin rulings on various policy questions asked by players. This page does not replace the rules and whenever possible the rules should be referred to instead of this page. The rulings listed here can be referenced in ban appeals and admin complaints.

Please note: Some of these questions are for very niche/specific situations. Some of them cannot be applied the same way to every situation.

General Rulings

Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Roundstart suicide Don't do it as an important role, and if it happens too often, you can be banned. May 04, 2015 KorPhaeron
Deleting security records as a nonantag Don't do it every round. Don't use a sec/head position to do it. Don't use it to metagrudge. Aug 23, 2017 Ausops
Deathmatch if round-end is bugged If the round fails to restart, but the end round text plays, then everyone is free to act as per solo antagonists unless otherwise told by an admin. Aug 26, 2017 MrStonedOne
Mass identity duplication Changing many people into one person via genetics/other methods as a nonantagonist. It can happen every once in a while, just don't do it every single round. Oct 12, 2017 Armhulenn
Weapons of Mass Destruction to counter antagonists An example of this is suicide bombing a wizard or BoH bombing the cult base. If use of the weapon does not win the round for your side immediately after, then it is grief and will be treated as such by admins. Aug 23, 2017 Armhulenn
Lynching for erotica on comms Lynching for reading smut and spamming, especially on comms, is always okay. It also makes the reader nonhuman in silicon eyes. Aug 16, 2017 PKPenguin321
Validity when killing pets If you perform an action which has zero benefit to you other than making others upset (like killing Ian) I will ban you if you adminhelp when someone kills you. Dec 30, 2017 KorPhaeron
Cutting down christmas trees/general asshole behavior for no reason If you perform an action which has zero benefit to you other than making others upset (like chopping down the Christmas trees while they’re enabled) I will ban you if you adminhelp when someone kills you. Dec 26, 2018 Nervere
Naming Policy - Updated Click here for the policy. Generally enforced at admin discretion. Oct 25, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
Overthrowing security/mutinies Any situation where you can overthrow the security force in, they'll probably already be banned. It's okay if you have sufficient IC reason. Jul 22, 2017 KorPhaeron
Forcing team antags to betray their team Can't do it. Jul 06, 2017 Ausops
Buying terrible shuttles as captain Allowed, but the crew is also allowed to mutiny/lynch the captain. Jul 03, 2017 KorPhaeron / PKPenguin321
Playing under the influence Being drunk is not an excuse for grief/other banworthy things. Jun 25, 2017 Ausops / PKPenguin321
Fake Revolutions Faking a revolution always causes grief, without fail. If someone is pretending to be a revolutionary, feel free to murder them. If I find someone faking a revolution as a non-antag, they can prepare to catch a rule 1 ban for being a griefing shitter. Feb 04, 2019 Nervere
Antag Rolling If you're antag rolling consistently, AKA only seeing if you get antag or not, then leaving the round in one way or another when you don't, you are breaking the rules. Jul 13, 2019 Hulkamania
Early Launching This is already enforced, unless there's no one around, or they haven't noticed. We encourage you to ahelp it if you see it, because yes, it's extremely in bad faith to early launch because unga my antag roll faster. Aug 25, 2019 Wubli
Using any language other than English in-game Using non-english to communicate sentences or obscure information is not allowed, admins are invited to use their discretion for minor usage of non-english words/phrases, especially where its usage causes confusion amongst other players. Nov 11, 2021 NamelessFairy
Prisoner Policies Prisoners are not antagonists. Attempting to break out is something they can do, but should not be an every round thing. When breaking out they are free to disable or restrain security but should not murder them. However, if security responds with lethal force, such as lethal shotgun rounds, they can murder in the spirit of preserving their own life. If a prisoner is caught after an attempted breakout, they've opened themselves up to any form of forced experimentation Apr 04, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
Supermatter suicide Suicide into an SM that is not set up, or that results in a delam is bannable. If you suicide into it, and it continues operations as normal without harmful side effects there is no issue. Jun 24, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
Macros Do not use them to gain an IC advantage over other players. Other macros are allowed (i.e. killing yourself in Orion Trail), but are context-dependent. Oct 18, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
Using 10-codes The use of short-hand codes for communication in any department, specifically 10-10 codes, are not allowed. Our servers are English only which makes this style of codified speak subversive and makes the applicable channels too unfriendly to new or fair-weather players. Oct 23, 2020 Domitius
The "MMI test" for changelings Killing someone, removing their brain, and placing it in an MMI for the explicit purpose of determining whether or not someone is a changeling is considered an exploit. Dec 5, 2021 Dragomagol

IC/OOC Rulings


Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Referencing the gamemode ICly It's OOC in IC if you say something similar to "It's revs" but it's okay if you say "There is a revolution." Basically make it sound like you're not referencing the fact that you're in a round. Jul 12, 2017 PKPenguin321
Pile on ick ock Pile on ick ock is defined as a bunch of people teasing someone for IC in OOCing. It's okay until it crosses the line into being spam. Admins can mute OOC/individual players if it gets to that point. Sep 24, 2017 Ausops
IC reactions to OOC in IC It's okay as long as you're not crossing the line into OOC in IC. Sep 30, 2017 Ausops
Streaming We've talked it over and we've decided that we will be disallowing streaming in its entirety from our server. It creates too many administrative headaches and potential for abuse to be allowed, while providing little benefit in return. If we add special restrictions and rules to streaming we'd need admins to check in and make sure those restrictions are being followed (such as a delay) when they're already busy trying to administrate on the server in the first place. The exception to all of this is that during certain special events such as the charity toolbox event or the balls we may lift this restriction. Apr 21, 2019 Hulkamania

Antagonist Rulings


Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Vampire Policy Vampires are not antagonists just by being a vampire. Oct 27, 2017 KorPhaeron
Are miners using the gluttony syringe antags? Yes, they can act as a morph. Nov 13, 2016 KorPhaeron
Trying to get converted to team antags It's bannable, don't do it. Aug 01, 2017 PKPenguin321
Conflict between team antagonists If two people are on the same team and have an argument, it must follow escalation rules/rule 1. It cannot be detrimental to your team. Aug 15, 2017 PKPenguin321 / Ausops
Solo antagonists and metagrudging Solo antagonists can metagrudge as long as they are not rolling for it specifically to do so, and killing someone who killed you in a previous life as a ghost role antag is bad. Sep 01, 2017 Ausops
Are spiders bound to the mother? Unless there's a message saying you are, the answer is no. Sep 11, 2017 Armhulenn
Wand of Polymorph and Antag Status Polymorphing yourself, or being willingly polymorphed, does not grant antag status. You are only an antagonist if you are unwillingly polymorphed. (This is a topic that has come up many times but never actually be codified) Sep 17, 2019 MortoSasye
Families Betrayal/Grief If you choose to betray your family, the actual betrayal can only happen once you've joined another family. This avoids the issue of having team antags killing each other and justifying it as betrayal. Families are expected to operate similarly to revs in regards to the more widespread damage they cause, so blowing up the SM for no reason is likely not going to be alright because it could kill some of your own family members or interfere with their work, if however you bomb a rival family's headquarters that is probably alright. Mar 18, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
Curse of Madness Meant to be taken as fluff, not a command. May 31, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
Obsessed Antag Status Obsessed are not full antags and should generally stick to their objectives. Aug 28, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
Abductors and Mindcontrolling Abductor brainwashing cannot be used for murderbone. Jan 11, 2021 Coconutwarrior97
Dynamic: Solo Antags willingly joining Team Antags Solo antagonists are restricted from willingly joining Team Antags Jan 11, 2021 Coconutwarrior97
How antagonistically can Abductors act? You can mess with the crew in many ways and create havoc, but are not allowed to just grab your baton and murderbone, or do things like sabotage the Supermatter crystal. Oct 16, 2021 Dragomagol

Admin-Related Rulings


Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Adminshopping Admin shopping is defined as going to different admins until you get a favorable ruling. It's highly frowned upon, don't do it. Sep 27, 2017 Feemjmeem / Agreed with by other headmins
Admin intervention without anyone ahelping It's allowed. Ausops
Killing nonhostile admin spawned entities Against the rules, don't do it. Sep 25, 2017 PKPenguin321
Using OOC to promote yourself for headmin elections One or two lines of text is fine, spamming is not. Sep 04, 2017 PKPenguin321

Escalation Rulings


Policy Ruling Date Headmin
IC Torture Don't complain if you get retaliated against for it. Oct 15, 2017 KorPhaeron
Map-Spawned Ghost Roles Such as roles spawned from ruins, including ash walkers, free golems, ancient station crew, etc. Escalation is massively relaxed with them. They must follow their roleplay guidelines found in the flavour text. Aug 14, 2017 KorPhaeron / PKPenguin321
Are miners turned into a lesser ash drake allowed to defend themselves? Yes, however, they are not antags by default. Nov 13, 2016 KorPhaeron
Talking mimes Talking mimes are subject to punishment by the crew, excluding gibbing/spacing of their corpse. Sep 23, 2018 Arianya
Make Shoe-less Clowns Valid Shoeless clowns have been specifically encouraged via code changes to allow them to wear appropriate clothing for dress up shenanigans. No longer do they have a negative moodlet for being without their shoes. A clown is supposed to dress up to their hearts content, limiting that by making them valid without the shoes is rather punishing. Aug 21, 2019 Hulkamania
Demotion metaprotections You can't do anything to resist a valid demotion that you couldn't do to resist a valid arrest. May 07, 2021 Jimmius

Security Rulings

Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Organizing mass grief as security or a head Do not organize mass grief when you are in control of the security force. For context: The original question was when it was okay to remove cat ears or tails. Click the link to read the full ruling on that subject. Oct 18, 2017 KorPhaeron
Bribes as security You can assist antags with sufficient IC reasoning, but you can't do antagonist things yourself. Jun 25, 2017 Ausops
Arresting nonantagonists on station vs team antagonist game modes By station vs team antagonist game modes, the author of the thread meant nuke ops, blob, wizard, malf, etc. Security is still allowed to arrest nonantagonists for crimes on these game modes. That's part of their job. Jul 30, 2014 Ikkarus
Planting/forging evidence as security No official ruling was given. If you do it and it causes someone to get wrongfully punished, it's on you. BeeSting12
Fortifying security roundstart Barriers roundstart are not allowed, flashers are allowed, giving out guns/armor roundstart is allowed. Sep 02, 2014 HornyGranny
Gulagging should not be equivalent to a regular brig sentence. We have agreed that gulagging is fine as it is, and anything you can complain about is probably an issue with them as a security player rather than something we can act on. You are free to ahelp if you think the punishment is harsher than it should be, but it's difficult to pinpoint whether or not it's fair without an actual case, which should probably be handled by admins in-game instead of policy. Aug 25, 2019 Wubli

Silicon and Drone Related Rulings

AI/Cyborg Rulings


Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Do wizards mindswapped into a silicon have to follow laws? Yes, they do. If you have laws then you must follow them unless you have a law zero. (When in doubt, adminhelp it.) Jul 19, 2014 Ikarrus
Do silicons count as a being under drone laws? Yes, treat them as any other crew member. Sep 19, 2014 QuartzCrystal
Can you order force-borged cyborgs to pick a certain module? Yes. Oct 08, 2014 Scaredy / An0n3
Detonating cyborgs with little reason/alternatives Don't do it. Dec 11, 2014 Ikarrus
Security Cyborg Policies Just a few random questions related to security cyborgs. If a cyborg is acting as security/releasing prisoners then this is probably relevant as well. Link to answers. Nov 26, 2014 Pandarsenic
Silicons and harm in situations where you can't tell if they're being harmed or not. Use common sense to decide if harm is going on. Jan 22, 2015
AIs asking for law changes An Asimov silicon cannot ask their laws to be changed. Jun 06, 2015 HotelBravoLima
Are augmented humans still human? Yes, they are. There's a helpful chart in silicon policy to help explain this, reference that and adminhelp if there's still a question. Mar 24, 2015 Scones
Drones and atmospherics Improving atmos is okay. Cutting pipes/turning off plasma is not okay. Fighting the symptoms of plasma in the distro is fine though. Sep 21, 2015 Shadowlight213
Spacing brains, MMIs, and intellicards You can always do it as an antagonist, you should have a very good reason as a nonantagonist. Sep 09, 2015 Dorsidwarf / Ausops
Cyborgs alerting the crew they're about to be emagged You can tell the crew you are about to be emagged, but once you have traitor laws, you must follow them. Aug, 2015
AIs shutting security down because of law one (discussion) This is already covered in silicon policy. Here's the discussion thread on it. Jan, 2016
Is mindswap considered harm? No, but if an Asimov silicon has mindswap and is ordered not to use it by a human, it can't use it. This is kind of an edge case. Nov 15, 2015 Jordie0608
Holoparasites and Asimov Holoparasites aren't human- a cyborg can attack the holoparasite but not the human. If the parasite recalls and the human is in critical, the borg must give him medical attention. Oct 08, 2015 KorPhaeron and Shadowlight213
Is slipping human harm? Only if the object they're holding falls on them and causes brute damage. Oct 06, 2015 Ausops
Silicons and Fight Clubs It's considered self harm if they're willingly fighting. Silicons shouldn't interfere if it's self harm. If they're being forced to fight, it's human harm and silicons should intervene. Mar 27, 2016 Thunder12345 / Agreed with by headmins
Roboticists making unslaved borgs for no reason Link to relevant thread. The discussion derailed into code discussion but the ruling is that roboticists cannot make unslaved borgs for no reason. Feb/Mar, 2016
Asimov and gang dominators This can probably be applied to other nonharmful antagonist objectives. If a human orders you not to destroy it, don't destroy it. Other than that, Asimov does not forbid you from destroying it. Feb 27, 2016 Ausops
Asimov and Corpses Corpses aren't human. You can't space them for no reason though. Aug 31, 2016 Shaps / Lzimann
Do caks remember past lives? Yes. Not really silicon policy but it's related to MMIs/borging. Jan 13, 2017 KorPhaeron
Calling silicons rogue for little/no reason Against the rules, don't do it. Dec 22, 2016 TehSteveo / KorPhaeron
AI suiciding to prevent subversion Context: If an AI knows it will be subverted and cause human harm, can it suicide? Example, clock cultists breaking into core, desword traitor in upload about to subvert, etc. It's allowed. He says it should be bannable not to, but you won't get banned for not doing so, it's up to the player. You're free to depower yourself as an AI to put the subverter/traitor on a timer but you shouldn't use the OOC verb to suicide. Oct 27, 2016 - Sep 20, 2020 KorPhaeron
Asking to be deconstructed and then outing person who emagged you as an emagged borg Don't do it. Jun 06, 2017 PKPenguin321
Silicons and Prisoners If a nonharmful prisoner asks to be released, it can be released. If a harmful one asks to be released, don't release him unless security is harming him. In all cases release prisoners being harmed by security. (assuming all prisoners are human and you are asimov) May 11, 2017 PKPenguin321
Letting people in to upload laws If the person has a right to be there, such as captain/RD, then you must let them in unless they've harmed people in the past or have announced intentions to upload harmful laws. Apr 14, 2017 Armhulenn
Laws ordering silicons to kill themselves Whether silicons have to follow it depends on wording of law. You must have a good reason as a nonantagonist and you're free to do it as an antagonist. Jul 26, 2017 Ausops
Silicons using leet speak Silicons are not allowed to leet speak (e.g. l33t sp34k), but typing in a 'glitchy' manner is allowed on roleplay grounds Apr 17, 2019 Hulkamania
Is chaplain with dark blessing human? Chaplain with a dark blade is human. It's a fancy arm add on. We don't make people silicon for having augments, even full ones. Aug 21, 2019 Hulkamania

Drone Rulings


Mostly defunct, as drones have since been removed, reworked, and re-introduced into the codebase.

Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Drone Policy Guidelines Guide to drone policy. May 20, 2015 Stickymayhem
Are drones valid? Only if they do something to annoy you. Mass killing drones for no reason is not okay. Sep 14, 2017 KorPhaeron
Drones and permabrig You can go in to fix damage. You might still get dronebanned if you let people out, it will likely be handled case-by-case. Oct 17, 2016
Drones and Powersinks Drones cannot destroy powersinks under the same logic of them not being able to defuse bombs or stop plasma floods. Aug 31, 2017 Ausops

Law Interpretation Rulings


Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Law interpretation and do not state this law clauses There is room for interpretation in some cases. Be consistent in your interpretation of the laws. Aug 22, 2017 Ausops
Do AIs need a definition of Syndicate agent? No, they know by default what a Syndicate agent is. This also applies to other antagonists. Jun 23, 2014 Hornygranny
Do purged silicons have to act like a crewmember? Purged silicons are subject to rule one and standard escalation. Dec 22, 2014 Stickymayhem
Discussion on paladin lawset: Part 2, the electric boogaloo Most relevant post is by HotelBravoLima, which applies to law interpretation in general. "Even doing something consistent with an interpretation of laws isn't good if you're being an OOC dick about it to such an extreme, that's the policy." May 02, 2015 HotelBravoLima
Tyrant module discussion Just general discussion on the tyrant lawset.
AI's law zero The law zero that a traitor AI gets means that it is an antagonist and it can ignore all other laws. Oct 27, 2015 KorPhaeron
Are AI laws applied retroactively? No. You'll have to read this thread to understand it, the question doesn't really provide enough context. Apr 04, 2016 Hornygranny
If a borg linked to a rogue AI is emagged then does the emagged laws or AI law zero take priority? Very niche case and is probably impossible since emags should sever the connection to the AI. Starmute made a good post on AI law priority if you are confused.
Potential Law One Violations "Prioritizing "potential future law violations" is a fucking terrible idea, since it makes silicons able to handwave basically any law two request with "yeah but if i let you in there you might potentially attack somebody inside, law 1 violation!!!"" Jun 06, 2017 PKPenguin321
Make "Do not state this law" a valid silicon policy law No, for the variety of reasons that have been said in this thread. Aug 25, 2019 Wubli

MRP Rulings

Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Murderboning Specifics on MRP Servers Some roles can do it, some cant, and there are grey areas. Mar 18, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
Promotions of prisoners to security If you have a decent enough reason for it such as needing people to fight a blob sure, otherwise no. Sep 20, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
"Gun Cargo" on MRP Needs a good IC reason, can't just be because "We're bored". Good faith gimmicks are still allowed, but you can't murder sec for trying to take your guns away. May 16, 2021 Coconutwarrior97
Security use of Contraband Sec should make best efforts to store contraband quickly, and only use it when appropriate situations arise. Wielding traitor gear during arrests threatens a sec officer's meta protections. Oct 24, 2021 RaveRadbury
Powergaming on MRP MRP players are expected to prioritize the story of the shift over tactical advantages. MRP admins are encouraged to engage sec, antags, and other crew that are going overboard with gear that doesn't fit the current circumstances (especially gear outside the scope of their job (as opposed to job products like plants and slime extracts)) and discuss the importance of pacing and sportsmanship. Nov 11, 2021 RaveRadbury

Archived Rulings

For Headmin Rulings that are no longer relevant, either due to being overruled or not applicable via code changes.