Headmin Rulings: различия между версиями
imported>Dragomagol (→Security Rulings: Added clarification for who security standards apply to) |
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|'''Deleting security records as a nonantag''' | |'''Deleting security records as a nonantag''' | ||
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|Oct 12, 2017 | |Oct 12, 2017 | ||
|Armhulenn | |Armhulenn | ||
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|'''Naming Policy - Updated ''' | |'''Naming Policy - Updated ''' | ||
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|KorPhaeron | |KorPhaeron | ||
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|''' | |'''Buying [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=623677#p623677 terrible shuttles] <del>as [[captain]]</del>''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t= | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=11930#p313973 Allowed, but the crew is also allowed to mutiny/lynch the captain.] | ||
'''Addendum:''' [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=623677#p623677 Buying (bad shuttles) when the crew is saving up for a more expensive shuttle or has agreed to make a BYOS could be cause for mutiny.] | |||
'''Clarification:''' [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=31722&p=641518#p641518 Inciting a lynch mob and defending yourself lethally is self-antagging. Non-lethal self defense is generally fine, in the same vein as resisting a valid arrest.] | |||
|Jul 03, 2017 | |Jul 03, 2017 | ||
|KorPhaeron / PKPenguin321 | |KorPhaeron / PKPenguin321, addendum by Dragomagol, clarification by MrMelbert / Timberpoes | ||
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|'''Playing under the influence''' | |'''Playing under the influence''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=11882#p312161 Being | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=11882#p312161 Being intoxicated is not an excuse for grief/other banworthy things.] | ||
|Jun 25, 2017 | |Jun 25, 2017 | ||
|Ausops / PKPenguin321 | |Ausops / PKPenguin321 | ||
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|'''[[Prisoner]] Policies''' | |'''[[Prisoner]] Policies''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p= | |Every prisoner spawns in with the following text, which should govern all administrative actions regarding the role: | ||
| | [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=654627#p654627 You are '''not an antagonist'''. Remember: you did sign up for this role. If you should want to walk the halls of the station once more, you should ''earn'' your freedom, whether by escaping your confines or working with security/lawyers to determine terms of release. You might prove to be valuable manpower against the various threats the station professes. If you should wish to escape, minimize harm while preserving your own life, and understand that you may not enjoy the consequences of your actions if you get caught once more. Otherwise, enjoy the amenities of the wing that holds you.] | ||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |Oct 22, 2022 | ||
|Coconutwarrior97, updated by san7890 | |||
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|'''[[Supermatter]] suicide''' | |'''[[Supermatter]] suicide''' | ||
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|Oct 23, 2020 | |Oct 23, 2020 | ||
|Domitius | |Domitius | ||
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|'''Weapons of Mass Destruction to counter antagonists''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=609255#p609255 Use of Weapons of Mass Destruction is acceptable if the target antagonist is an overwhelming force and is on the verge of defeating the station, such as Nuclear Operatives, Cult, etc.] | |||
|Aug 2, 2021 | |||
|Coconutwarrior97, Jimmius, Naloac | |||
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|'''Dismantling the tram on Tram Station''' | |'''Dismantling the tram on Tram Station''' | ||
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|Oct 09, 2021 | |Oct 09, 2021 | ||
|NamelessFairy | |NamelessFairy | ||
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|'''Calling the Emergency Shuttle without a good reason''' | |'''Calling the Emergency Shuttle without a good reason''' | ||
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|Feb 21, 2022 | |Feb 21, 2022 | ||
|Dragomagol | |Dragomagol | ||
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|'''Building the BSA in dangerous places''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=695541#p695541 Build it wherever the fuck you like cuz it looks cool, but if you're egging on others to unlock it or fire it after building it in a grief spot it's partially on you.] | |||
|Jul 24, 2023 | |||
|Kieth4 / Timberpoes | |||
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|Jul 12, 2017 | |Jul 12, 2017 | ||
|PKPenguin321 | |PKPenguin321 | ||
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|'''IC reactions to OOC in IC''' | |'''IC reactions to OOC in IC''' | ||
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|'''Streaming''' | |'''Streaming''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f= | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=31029 Streaming is allowed on a '''registration-based system'''. Read the rules here for more information.] | ||
| | |Feb 15, 2022 | ||
| | |RaveRadbury | ||
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|'''Typebaiting''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=667957#p667957 Blatant type-baiting (i.e. explicitly using short questions to get someone to open a chat window such that they cannot respond when you promptly attack them) is metagaming, and is actionable] | |||
|Mar 03, 2023 | |||
|Spookuni | |||
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|'''Phonetically saying abbreviations/acronyms''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=704879#p704879 It's fine to make yourself look like a dork to phonetically say something that'd normally be too OOC.] | |||
|Sep 19, 2023 | |||
|Fikou | |||
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|Sep 01, 2017 | |Sep 01, 2017 | ||
|Ausops | |Ausops | ||
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|'''Wand of Polymorph and Antag Status''' | |'''Wand of Polymorph and Antag Status''' | ||
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|Sep 17, 2019 | |Sep 17, 2019 | ||
|MortoSasye | |MortoSasye | ||
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|'''Curse of Madness''' | |'''Curse of Madness''' | ||
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|Coconutwarrior97 | |Coconutwarrior97 | ||
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|''' | |'''Solo antags willingly being converted''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=587044#p587044 Solo | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=587044#p587044 Solo antags may not join conversion based antags willingly. They cant just walk up to people and ask to join or allow themselves to be converted.] | ||
|Jan 11, 2021 | |Jan 11, 2021 | ||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |Coconutwarrior97 | ||
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|RaveRadbury | |RaveRadbury | ||
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|''' | |'''Ghosting When Caught By A Conversion Antag''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p= | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=705888#p705888 Using the suicide verb is okay before you're converted, but using the ghost verb is not. Ask for an antag ban if you do not want to play a team antag.] | ||
| | |Sep 26, 2023 | ||
| | |Cheshify | ||
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|'''Admin intervention without anyone ahelping''' | |'''Admin intervention without anyone ahelping''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php? | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=340931#p340931 It's allowed.] | ||
| | |Sep 26, 2017 | ||
|Ausops | |Ausops | ||
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|'''Talking [[Mime|mimes]]''' | |'''Talking [[Mime|mimes]]''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=19699#p441114 Talking mimes are subject to punishment by the crew, excluding | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=19699#p441114 Talking mimes are subject to punishment by the crew, excluding any form of round removal and making their body harder to find or revive.] [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=670464#p670464 This is still true even if the mime changes job mid-shift. Once a mime, always a mime.] | ||
|Sep 23, 2018 | |Sep 23, 2018 | ||
|Arianya | |Arianya, last updated by Misdoubtful | ||
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|'''Demotion metaprotections''' | |'''Demotion metaprotections''' | ||
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|'''Speciesism Escalation''' | |'''Speciesism Escalation''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=628658#p628658 As per MSO's ruling. A player expressing speciesism is valid for (initially non-lethal) escalation. It is perfectly IC to want to beat up some speciesist asshole. However, if you use speciesism to initiate conflict you can still be punished at an administrative level for winning those fights under the guise of self-defence. Admins should enforce this with the goal of preventing players from being speciesist so that they can "valid" those who respond to it with violence.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=628658#p628658 As per MSO's ruling. A player expressing speciesism is valid for (initially non-lethal) escalation. It is perfectly IC to want to beat up some speciesist asshole. However, if you use speciesism to initiate conflict you can still be punished at an administrative level for winning those fights under the guise of self-defence. Admins should enforce this with the goal of preventing players from being speciesist so that they can "valid" those who respond to it with violence.] | ||
|Feb 03, 2022 | [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=695750#p695750 Players using specifically the "l-word" are open to death and round-removal.] | ||
|NamelessFairy | |Feb 03, 2022, edit on Jul 25, 2023 | ||
|NamelessFairy, last updated by Timberpoes | |||
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|Jun 25, 2017 | |Jun 25, 2017 | ||
|Ausops | |Ausops | ||
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|'''Planting/forging evidence as security''' | |'''Planting/forging evidence as security''' | ||
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|BeeSting12 | |BeeSting12 | ||
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|'''Who do security standards apply to?''' | |'''Who do security standards apply to?''' | ||
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|Jul 19, 2014 | |Jul 19, 2014 | ||
|Ikarrus | |Ikarrus | ||
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|'''Can you order force-borged cyborgs to pick a certain module?''' | |'''Can you order force-borged cyborgs to pick a certain module?''' | ||
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|Dec 11, 2014 | |Dec 11, 2014 | ||
|Ikarrus | |Ikarrus | ||
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|'''Are augmented humans still human?''' | |'''Are augmented humans still human?''' | ||
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|Mar 24, 2015 | |Mar 24, 2015 | ||
|Scones | |Scones | ||
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|'''Spacing brains, MMIs, and intellicards''' | |'''Spacing brains, MMIs, and intellicards''' | ||
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4309 You can tell the crew you are about to be emagged, but once you have traitor laws, you must follow them.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4309 You can tell the crew you are about to be emagged, but once you have traitor laws, you must follow them.] | ||
|Aug, 2015 | |Aug, 2015 | ||
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|'''Holoparasites and Asimov''' | |'''Holoparasites and Asimov''' | ||
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5864 Link to relevant thread.] The discussion derailed into code discussion but the ruling is that roboticists cannot make unslaved borgs for no reason. | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5864 Link to relevant thread.] The discussion derailed into code discussion but the ruling is that roboticists cannot make unslaved borgs for no reason. | ||
|Feb/Mar, 2016 | |Feb/Mar, 2016 | ||
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|'''Asimov and Corpses''' | |'''Asimov and Corpses''' | ||
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|Aug 31, 2016 | |Aug 31, 2016 | ||
|Shaps / Lzimann | |Shaps / Lzimann | ||
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|'''Calling silicons rogue for little/no reason''' | |'''Calling silicons rogue for little/no reason''' | ||
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|'''AI suiciding to prevent subversion''' | |'''AI suiciding to prevent subversion''' | ||
| | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=27143 You're free to depower yourself as an AI to put the subverter/traitor on a timer but you shouldn't use the OOC verb to suicide.] | ||
|Oct 27, 2016 - Sep 20, 2020 | |Oct 27, 2016 - Sep 20, 2020 | ||
|KorPhaeron | |KorPhaeron | ||
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|May 11, 2017 | |May 11, 2017 | ||
|PKPenguin321 | |PKPenguin321 | ||
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|'''Laws ordering silicons to kill themselves''' | |'''Laws ordering silicons to kill themselves''' | ||
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|Aug 21, 2019 | |Aug 21, 2019 | ||
|Hulkamania | |Hulkamania | ||
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|'''Are borged antagonists still antagonists?''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=582729#p582729 Antagonists still retain their status as a slaved borg (As long as they follow those laws and their AI).] | |||
|Dec 5, 2020 | |||
|Domitius | |||
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|'''Asimov++ silicons and antag human hunting''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=655840#p655840 Asimov silicons that take action against non-harmful human traitors (I.E. those who are committing minor crimes like breaking and entering or theft, or those not carrying or known to possess lethal weaponry) directly and without provocation will be held accountable for any human harm that occurs as a result of their action.] | |||
|Nov 6, 2022 | |||
|Spookuni | |||
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|Aug 31, 2017 | |Aug 31, 2017 | ||
|Ausops | |Ausops | ||
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|'''Drones and atmospherics''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4719#p120210 Improving atmos is okay. Cutting pipes/turning off plasma is not okay. Fighting the symptoms of plasma in the distro is fine though.] | |||
|Sep 21, 2015 | |||
|Shadowlight213 | |||
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|'''Do silicons count as a being under drone laws?''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1468#p29681 Yes, treat them as any other crew member.] | |||
|Sep 19, 2014 | |||
|QuartzCrystal | |||
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|'''Do AIs need a definition of Syndicate agent?''' | |'''Do AIs need a definition of Syndicate agent?''' | ||
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|Jun 23, 2014 | |Jun 23, 2014 | ||
|Hornygranny | |Hornygranny | ||
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|'''AI's law zero''' | |'''AI's law zero''' | ||
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|Oct 27, 2015 | |Oct 27, 2015 | ||
|KorPhaeron | |KorPhaeron | ||
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|'''Potential Law One Violations''' | |'''Potential Law One Violations''' | ||
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|PKPenguin321 | |PKPenguin321 | ||
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|''' | |'''Define what classifies harm as willing, or change asimov++ law one''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p= | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=655837#p655837 Acceptance of risk is not the same thing as acceptance of harm - Silicons should act to minimise harm not explicitly consented to as much as they are able - if in doubt, ask the human. For more specific examples, see the full response to the thread.] | ||
| | |Nov 05, 2022 | ||
| | |Spookuni | ||
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| '''Searching for Implants''' | |||
| [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=580690#p580690 If you're going to implant check you should have a justifiable reason to suspect they are specifically a traitor. Break ins, stealing someone's ID, stealing a laser, are actions which are not tied down specifically to traitors and aren't severe enough to justify an implant check.<br>Murder, multiple instances where someone is brought in for high impact crimes, or being in possession of syndicate equipment are sufficient for an implant check.] | |||
|Mar 3, 2020 | |||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |||
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| '''Murderboning Specifics on MRP Servers''' | | '''Murderboning Specifics on MRP Servers''' | ||
| [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=550227#p550227 Some roles can do it, some cant, and there are grey areas.] | | [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=550227#p550227 Some roles can do it, some cant, and there are grey areas.] | ||
|Mar 18, 2020 | |Mar 18, 2020 | ||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |||
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| '''"Gun Cargo" on MRP''' | |||
| [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=600280#p600280 Needs a good IC reason, can't just be because "We're bored". Good faith gimmicks are still allowed, but you can't murder sec for trying to take your guns away.] | |||
|May 16, 2021 | |||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |Coconutwarrior97 | ||
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| [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=576934#p576934 If you have a decent enough reason for it such as needing people to fight a blob sure, otherwise no.] | | [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=576934#p576934 If you have a decent enough reason for it such as needing people to fight a blob sure, otherwise no.] | ||
|Sep 20, 2020 | |Sep 20, 2020 | ||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |Coconutwarrior97 | ||
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== Archived Rulings == | == Archived Rulings == | ||
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"> | <div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"> | ||
For Headmin Rulings that are no longer relevant, either due to being overruled or | For Headmin Rulings that are no longer relevant, either due to being overruled/added into the main rules, or being longer applicable due to code changes. | ||
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|Coconutwarrior97 | |Coconutwarrior97 | ||
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|''' | |'''Arresting nonantagonists on station vs team antagonist game modes''' | ||
| | |By station vs team antagonist game modes, the author of the thread meant nuke ops, blob, wizard, malf, etc. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1105#p22168 Security is still allowed to arrest nonantagonists for crimes on these game modes. That's part of their job.] | ||
|Aug | This thread was based on the assumption that nuke ops, blob, etc confirm that there is no other antagonists. This was true at the time, but is no longer true after Dynamic. | ||
|Jul 30, 2014 | |||
|Ikkarus | |||
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|'''Streaming''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=22335&p=490439#p490439 We've talked it over and we've decided that we will be disallowing streaming in its entirety from our server. It creates too many administrative headaches and potential for abuse to be allowed, while providing little benefit in return. If we add special restrictions and rules to streaming we'd need admins to check in and make sure those restrictions are being followed (such as a delay) when they're already busy trying to administrate on the server in the first place. The exception to all of this is that during certain special events such as the charity toolbox event or the balls we may lift this restriction.] | |||
|Apr 21, 2019 | |||
|Hulkamania | |||
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|'''Make Shoe-less [[Clown|Clowns]] Valid''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=508912#p508912 Shoeless clowns have been specifically encouraged via code changes to allow them to wear appropriate clothing for dress up shenanigans. No longer do they have a negative moodlet for being without their shoes. A clown is supposed to dress up to their hearts content, limiting that by making them valid without the shoes is rather punishing.] | |||
This was more relevant at the time, when shoeless clowns were assumed valid, but that assumption is long gone, and taking off your shoes as clown even gives a positive moodlet now. | |||
|Aug 21, 2019 | |||
|Hulkamania | |||
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|'''[[Families]] Betrayal/Grief''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=25984 If you choose to betray your family, the actual betrayal can only happen once you've joined another family. This avoids the issue of having team antags killing each other and justifying it as betrayal. Families are expected to operate similarly to revs in regards to the more widespread damage they cause, so blowing up the SM for no reason is likely not going to be alright because it could kill some of your own family members or interfere with their work, if however you bomb a rival family's headquarters that is probably alright.] | |||
With [https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/68480 PR #68480], the Families gamemode has been removed. | |||
|Mar 18, 2020 - Jul 17, 2022 | |||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |||
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|'''Thieves Policy''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=630109#p630109 Like abductors, obsessed, and brainwashed victims, thieves are not full antagonists and therefore rule 4 does not apply to them. Security should treat thieves as they would any other crew member who is maliciously stealing items. Likewise, thieves should not be using murder as a first resort to get items, and should escalate regularly.] | |||
With [https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/69304 PR #69304], the Thieves gamemode has been removed. | |||
|Feb 21, 2022 - Aug 19, 2022 | |||
|Dragomagol | |||
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|'''Make "Do not state this law" a valid silicon policy law''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=510238#p510238 No, for the variety of reasons that have been said in this thread.] | |||
|Aug 25, 2019 | |||
|Wubli | |||
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|'''If a borg linked to a rogue AI is emagged then does the emagged laws or AI law zero take priority?''' | |||
|Very niche case and is probably impossible since emags should sever the connection to the AI. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6570#p173807 Starmute made a good post on AI law priority if you are confused.] | |||
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|'''Are AI laws applied retroactively?''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6351#p166712 No.] You'll have to read this thread to understand it, the question doesn't really provide enough context. | |||
|Apr 04, 2016 | |||
|Hornygranny | |||
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|'''Tyrant module discussion''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4711 Just general discussion on the tyrant lawset.] | |||
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|'''Do purged silicons have to act like a crewmember?''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2277#p52744 Purged silicons are subject to rule one and standard escalation.] | |||
|Dec 22, 2014 | |||
|Stickymayhem | |||
|- | |||
|'''Discussion on paladin lawset: Part 2, the electric boogaloo''' | |||
|Most relevant post is by HotelBravoLima, which applies to law interpretation in general. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3523#p85375 "Even doing something consistent with an interpretation of laws isn't good if you're being an OOC dick about it to such an extreme, that's the policy."] | |||
|May 02, 2015 | |||
|HotelBravoLima | |||
|- | |||
|'''Law interpretation and do not state this law clauses''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12627#p328678 There is room for interpretation in some cases. Be consistent in your interpretation of the laws.] | |||
|Aug 22, 2017 | |||
|Ausops | |||
|- | |||
|'''Purging AIs for no reason''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=636481#p636481 Purging should be used in cases where you are making new lawsets, are doing something as an antagonist, etc, and should not be a get out of jail free card on needing to make a lawset. We are officially recognizing purging as a means for players to achieve this effect as metagaming.] | |||
|Apr 6, 2022 | |||
|Mothblocks | |||
|- | |||
|'''Letting people in to upload laws''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=10691#p280627 If the person has a right to be there, such as captain/RD, then you must let them in unless they've harmed people in the past or have announced intentions to upload harmful laws.] | |||
|Apr 14, 2017 | |||
|Armhulenn | |||
|- | |||
|'''Asimov and gang dominators''' | |||
|This can probably be applied to other nonharmful antagonist objectives. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6049#p157857 If a human orders you not to destroy it, don't destroy it. Other than that, Asimov does not forbid you from destroying it.] | |||
|Feb 27, 2016 | |||
|Ausops | |||
|- | |||
|'''AIs shutting security down because of law one (discussion)''' | |||
|This is already covered in silicon policy. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5551 Here's the discussion thread on it.] | |||
|Jan, 2016 | |||
|- | |||
|'''Is mindswap considered harm?''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5180#p133969 No, but if an Asimov silicon has mindswap and is ordered not to use it by a human, it can't use it.] This is kind of an edge case. | |||
|Nov 15, 2015 | |||
|Jordie0608 | |||
|- | |||
|'''Security Cyborg Policies''' | |||
|Just a few random questions related to security cyborgs. If a cyborg is acting as security/releasing prisoners then this is probably relevant as well. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2032&start=100#p46292 Link to answers.] | |||
|Nov 26, 2014 | |||
|Pandarsenic | |||
|- | |||
|'''Validity when killing pets''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=14718#p369897 If you perform an action which has zero benefit to you other than making others upset (like killing Ian) I will ban you if you adminhelp when someone kills you.] | |||
|Dec 30, 2017 | |||
|KorPhaeron | |||
|- | |||
|'''Cutting down christmas trees/general asshole behavior for no reason''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=20942#p464904 If you perform an action which has zero benefit to you other than making others upset (like chopping down the Christmas trees while they’re enabled) I will ban you if you adminhelp when someone kills you.] | |||
|Dec 26, 2018 | |||
|Nervere | |||
|- | |||
|'''Roundstart suicide''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3536#p85722 Don't do it as an important role, and if it happens too often, you can be banned.] | |||
|May 04, 2015 | |||
|KorPhaeron | |||
|- | |||
|'''Lynching for erotica on comms''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12516#p327160 Lynching for reading smut and spamming, especially on comms, is always okay. It also makes the reader nonhuman in silicon eyes.] | |||
|Aug 16, 2017 | |||
|PKPenguin321 | |||
|- | |||
|'''Forcing team antags to betray their team''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12004#p314848 Can't do it.] | |||
|Jul 06, 2017 | |||
|Ausops | |||
|- | |||
|'''The "MMI test" for changelings''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=621266#p621266 Killing someone, removing their brain, and placing it in an MMI for the explicit purpose of determining whether or not someone is a changeling is considered an exploit.] | |||
|Dec 05, 2021 | |||
|Dragomagol | |||
|- | |||
|'''Pile on ick ock''' | |||
|Pile on ick ock is defined as a bunch of people teasing someone for IC in OOCing. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=13113#p340427 It's okay until it crosses the line into being spam. Admins can mute OOC/individual players if it gets to that point.] | |||
|Sep 24, 2017 | |||
|Ausops | |||
|- | |||
|'''Are spiders bound to the mother?''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12895#p335656 Unless there's a message saying you are, the answer is no.] | |||
|Sep 11, 2017 | |||
|Armhulenn | |Armhulenn | ||
|- | |||
|'''Fortifying security roundstart''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1337#p26622 Barriers roundstart are not allowed, flashers are allowed, giving out guns/armor roundstart is allowed.] | |||
|Sep 02, 2014 | |||
|HornyGranny | |||
|- | |||
|'''Gulagging should not be equivalent to a regular brig sentence.''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=510239#p510239 We have agreed that gulagging is fine as it is, and anything you can complain about is probably an issue with them as a security player rather than something we can act on. You are free to ahelp if you think the punishment is harsher than it should be, but it's difficult to pinpoint whether or not it's fair without an actual case, which should probably be handled by admins in-game instead of policy.] | |||
|Aug 25, 2019 | |||
|Wubli | |||
|- | |||
|'''Silicons and harm in situations where you can't tell if they're being harmed or not.''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2677 Use common sense to decide if harm is going on.] | |||
|Jan 22, 2015 | |||
|- | |||
|'''AIs asking for law changes''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3793#p93653 An Asimov silicon cannot ask their laws to be changed.] | |||
|Jun 06, 2015 | |||
|HotelBravoLima | |||
|- | |||
|'''Do caks remember past lives?''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=9223#p243589 Yes.] Not really silicon policy but it's related to MMIs/borging. | |||
|Jan 13, 2017 | |||
|KorPhaeron | |||
|- | |||
|'''Security officers ignoring crime''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=711388#p711388 Security should be at least trying to do their job, or have a solid roleplay reason not to.] | |||
|Nov 14, 2023 | |||
|Cheshify | |||
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This is a compilation of headmin rulings on various policy questions asked by players. This page does not replace the rules and whenever possible the rules should be referred to instead of this page. The rulings listed here can be referenced in ban appeals and admin complaints.
Please note: Some of these questions are for very niche/specific situations. Some of them cannot be applied the same way to every situation.
General Rulings
IC/OOC Rulings
Policy | Ruling | Date | Headmin |
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Referencing the gamemode ICly | It's OOC in IC if you say something similar to "It's revs" but it's okay if you say "There is a revolution." Basically make it sound like you're not referencing the fact that you're in a round. | Jul 12, 2017 | PKPenguin321 |
IC reactions to OOC in IC | It's okay as long as you're not crossing the line into OOC in IC. | Sep 30, 2017 | Ausops |
Streaming | Streaming is allowed on a registration-based system. Read the rules here for more information. | Feb 15, 2022 | RaveRadbury |
Typebaiting | Blatant type-baiting (i.e. explicitly using short questions to get someone to open a chat window such that they cannot respond when you promptly attack them) is metagaming, and is actionable | Mar 03, 2023 | Spookuni |
Phonetically saying abbreviations/acronyms | It's fine to make yourself look like a dork to phonetically say something that'd normally be too OOC. | Sep 19, 2023 | Fikou |
Antagonist Rulings
Admin-Related Rulings
Policy | Ruling | Date | Headmin |
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Adminshopping | Admin shopping is defined as going to different admins until you get a favorable ruling. It's highly frowned upon, don't do it. | Sep 27, 2017 | Feemjmeem / Agreed with by other headmins |
Admin intervention without anyone ahelping | It's allowed. | Sep 26, 2017 | Ausops |
Killing nonhostile admin spawned entities | Against the rules, don't do it. | Sep 25, 2017 | PKPenguin321 |
Using OOC to promote yourself for headmin elections | One or two lines of text is fine, spamming is not. | Sep 04, 2017 | PKPenguin321 |
Escalation Rulings
Security Rulings
Policy | Ruling | Date | Headmin |
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Organizing mass grief as security or a head | Do not organize mass grief when you are in control of the security force. For context: The original question was when it was okay to remove cat ears or tails. Click the link to read the full ruling on that subject. | Oct 18, 2017 | KorPhaeron |
Bribes as security | You can assist antags with sufficient IC reasoning, but you can't do antagonist things yourself. | Jun 25, 2017 | Ausops |
Planting/forging evidence as security | No official ruling was given. If you do it and it causes someone to get wrongfully punished, it's on you. | BeeSting12 | |
Who do security standards apply to? | Security standards can be applied to anyone acting as security, not just roundstart security officers. | Mar 5, 2022 | Dragomagol |
Silicon and Drone Related Rulings
AI/Cyborg Rulings
Drone Rulings
Mostly defunct, as drones have since been removed, reworked, and re-introduced into the codebase.
Policy | Ruling | Date | Headmin |
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Drone Policy Guidelines | Guide to drone policy. | May 20, 2015 | Stickymayhem |
Are drones valid? | Only if they do something to annoy you. Mass killing drones for no reason is not okay. | Sep 14, 2017 | KorPhaeron |
Drones and permabrig | You can go in to fix damage. You might still get dronebanned if you let people out, it will likely be handled case-by-case. | Oct 17, 2016 | |
Drones and Powersinks | Drones cannot destroy powersinks under the same logic of them not being able to defuse bombs or stop plasma floods. | Aug 31, 2017 | Ausops |
Drones and atmospherics | Improving atmos is okay. Cutting pipes/turning off plasma is not okay. Fighting the symptoms of plasma in the distro is fine though. | Sep 21, 2015 | Shadowlight213 |
Do silicons count as a being under drone laws? | Yes, treat them as any other crew member. | Sep 19, 2014 | QuartzCrystal |
Law Interpretation Rulings
Policy | Ruling | Date | Headmin |
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Do AIs need a definition of Syndicate agent? | No, they know by default what a Syndicate agent is. This also applies to other antagonists. | Jun 23, 2014 | Hornygranny |
AI's law zero | The law zero that a traitor AI gets means that it is an antagonist and it can ignore all other laws. | Oct 27, 2015 | KorPhaeron |
Potential Law One Violations | "Prioritizing "potential future law violations" is a fucking terrible idea, since it makes silicons able to handwave basically any law two request with "yeah but if i let you in there you might potentially attack somebody inside, law 1 violation!!!"" | Jun 06, 2017 | PKPenguin321 |
Define what classifies harm as willing, or change asimov++ law one | Acceptance of risk is not the same thing as acceptance of harm - Silicons should act to minimise harm not explicitly consented to as much as they are able - if in doubt, ask the human. For more specific examples, see the full response to the thread. | Nov 05, 2022 | Spookuni |
MRP Rulings
Archived Rulings
For Headmin Rulings that are no longer relevant, either due to being overruled/added into the main rules, or being longer applicable due to code changes.