Headmin Rulings: различия между версиями
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This is a compilation of headmin rulings on various policy questions asked by players. This page does not replace the [[rules]] and whenever possible the rules should be referred to instead of this page. The rulings listed here can be referenced in ban appeals and admin complaints. | This is a compilation of headmin rulings on various policy questions asked by players. This page does not replace the [[rules]] and whenever possible the rules should be referred to instead of this page. The rulings listed here can be referenced in ban appeals and admin complaints. | ||
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== General Rulings == | == General Rulings == | ||
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! scope="col" style='width:20%; background-color:#cc6666;'|Policy | |||
! scope="col" style='background-color:#cc6666;'|Ruling | |||
! scope="col" style='text-align: center; width:10%; background-color:#cc6666;'|Date | |||
! scope="col" style='text-align: center; width:10%; background-color:#cc6666;'|Headmin | |||
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|''' | |'''Roundstart suicide''' | ||
| | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3536#p85722 Don't do it as an important role, and if it happens too often, you can be banned.] | ||
| | |May 04, 2015 | ||
|KorPhaeron | |||
|- | |- | ||
|''' | |'''Deleting security records as a nonantag''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t= | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12649#p329567 Don't do it every round. Don't use a sec/head position to do it. Don't use it to metagrudge.] | ||
|Aug 23, 2017 | |||
|Ausops | |Ausops | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Deathmatch if round-end is bugged''' | |'''Deathmatch if round-end is bugged''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12708#p330640 If the round fails to restart, but the end round text plays, then everyone is free to act as per solo antagonists unless otherwise told by an admin.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12708#p330640 If the round fails to restart, but the end round text plays, then everyone is free to act as per solo antagonists unless otherwise told by an admin.] | ||
|Aug 26, 2017 | |||
|MrStonedOne | |MrStonedOne | ||
|- | |||
|'''Mass identity duplication''' | |||
|Changing many people into one person via genetics/other methods as a nonantagonist. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=13357#p346522 It can happen every once in a while, just don't do it every single round.] | |||
|Oct 12, 2017 | |||
|Armhulenn | |||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Weapons of Mass Destruction to counter antagonists''' | |'''Weapons of Mass Destruction to counter antagonists''' | ||
|An example of this is suicide bombing a wizard or BoH bombing the cult base. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12662#p329751 If use of the weapon does not win the round for your side immediately after, then it is grief and will be treated as such by admins.] | |An example of this is suicide bombing a wizard or BoH bombing the cult base. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12662#p329751 If use of the weapon does not win the round for your side immediately after, then it is grief and will be treated as such by admins.] | ||
|Aug 23, 2017 | |||
|Armhulenn | |Armhulenn | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Lynching for erotica on comms''' | |'''Lynching for erotica on comms''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12516#p327160 Lynching for reading smut and spamming, especially on comms, is always okay. It also makes the reader nonhuman in silicon eyes.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12516#p327160 Lynching for reading smut and spamming, especially on comms, is always okay. It also makes the reader nonhuman in silicon eyes.] | ||
|Aug 16, 2017 | |||
|PKPenguin321 | |PKPenguin321 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|''' | |'''Validity when killing pets''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t= | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=14718#p369897 If you perform an action which has zero benefit to you other than making others upset (like killing Ian) I will ban you if you adminhelp when someone kills you.] | ||
|Dec 30, 2017 | |||
|KorPhaeron | |KorPhaeron | ||
|- | |- | ||
|''' | |'''Cutting down christmas trees/general asshole behavior for no reason''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f= | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=20942#p464904 If you perform an action which has zero benefit to you other than making others upset (like chopping down the Christmas trees while they’re enabled) I will ban you if you adminhelp when someone kills you.] | ||
| | |Dec 26, 2018 | ||
|Nervere | |||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Naming Policy - Updated ''' | |'''Naming Policy - Updated ''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php? | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=579986 Click here for the policy. Generally enforced at admin discretion.] | ||
| | |Oct 25, 2020 | ||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Overthrowing [[security]]/mutinies''' | |'''Overthrowing [[security]]/mutinies''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12230#p319376 Any situation where you can overthrow the security force in, they'll probably already be banned. It's okay if you have sufficient IC reason.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12230#p319376 Any situation where you can overthrow the security force in, they'll probably already be banned. It's okay if you have sufficient IC reason.] | ||
|Jul 22, 2017 | |||
|KorPhaeron | |KorPhaeron | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Forcing team antags to betray their team''' | |'''Forcing team antags to betray their team''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12004#p314848 Can't do it.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12004#p314848 Can't do it.] | ||
|Jul 06, 2017 | |||
|Ausops | |Ausops | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Buying terrible shuttles as [[captain]]''' | |'''Buying terrible shuttles as [[captain]]''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=11930#p313973 Allowed, but the crew is also allowed to mutiny/lynch the captain.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=11930#p313973 Allowed, but the crew is also allowed to mutiny/lynch the captain.] | ||
|KorPhaeron/PKPenguin321 | |Jul 03, 2017 | ||
|KorPhaeron / PKPenguin321 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Playing under the influence''' | |'''Playing under the influence''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=11882#p312161 Being drunk is not an excuse for grief/other banworthy things.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=11882#p312161 Being drunk is not an excuse for grief/other banworthy things.] | ||
|Ausops/PKPenguin321 | |Jun 25, 2017 | ||
|Ausops / PKPenguin321 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Fake [[Revolution|Revolutions]]''' | |'''Fake [[Revolution|Revolutions]]''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=474528#p474528 Faking a revolution always causes grief, without fail. If someone is pretending to be a revolutionary, feel free to murder them. If I find someone faking a revolution as a non-antag, they can prepare to catch a rule 1 ban for being a griefing shitter.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=474528#p474528 Faking a revolution always causes grief, without fail. If someone is pretending to be a revolutionary, feel free to murder them. If I find someone faking a revolution as a non-antag, they can prepare to catch a rule 1 ban for being a griefing shitter.] | ||
|Feb 04, 2019 | |||
|Nervere | |Nervere | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Antag Rolling''' | |'''Antag Rolling''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23210#p503140 If you're antag rolling consistently, AKA only seeing if you get antag or not, then leaving the round in one way or another when you don't, you are breaking the rules.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23210#p503140 If you're antag rolling consistently, AKA only seeing if you get antag or not, then leaving the round in one way or another when you don't, you are breaking the rules.] | ||
|Jul 13, 2019 | |||
|Hulkamania | |Hulkamania | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Early Launching''' | |'''Early Launching''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=510237#p510237 This is already enforced, unless there's no one around, or they haven't noticed. We encourage you to ahelp it if you see it, because yes, it's extremely in bad faith to early launch because unga my antag roll faster.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=510237#p510237 This is already enforced, unless there's no one around, or they haven't noticed. We encourage you to ahelp it if you see it, because yes, it's extremely in bad faith to early launch because unga my antag roll faster.] | ||
|Aug 25, 2019 | |||
|Wubli | |Wubli | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Using any language other than English in-game''' | |'''Using any language other than English in-game''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=618983#p618983 Using non-english to communicate sentences or obscure information is not allowed, admins are invited to use their discretion for minor usage of non-english words/phrases, especially where its usage causes confusion amongst other players.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=618983#p618983 Using non-english to communicate sentences or obscure information is not allowed, admins are invited to use their discretion for minor usage of non-english words/phrases, especially where its usage causes confusion amongst other players.] | ||
|Nov 11, 2021 | |||
|NamelessFairy | |NamelessFairy | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''[[Prisoner]] Policies''' | |'''[[Prisoner]] Policies''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=553343#p553343 Prisoners are not antagonists. Attempting to break out is something they can do, but should not be an every round thing. When breaking out they are free to disable or restrain security but should not murder them. However, if security responds with lethal force, such as lethal shotgun rounds, they can murder in the spirit of preserving their own life. If a prisoner is caught after an attempted breakout, they've opened themselves up to any form of forced experimentation] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=553343#p553343 Prisoners are not antagonists. Attempting to break out is something they can do, but should not be an every round thing. When breaking out they are free to disable or restrain security but should not murder them. However, if security responds with lethal force, such as lethal shotgun rounds, they can murder in the spirit of preserving their own life. If a prisoner is caught after an attempted breakout, they've opened themselves up to any form of forced experimentation] | ||
| | |Apr 04, 2020 | ||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |Coconutwarrior97 | ||
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|'''[[Supermatter]] suicide''' | |'''[[Supermatter]] suicide''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=567006#p567006 Suicide into an SM that is not set up, or that results in a delam is bannable. If you suicide into it, and it continues operations as normal without harmful side effects there is no issue.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=567006#p567006 Suicide into an SM that is not set up, or that results in a delam is bannable. If you suicide into it, and it continues operations as normal without harmful side effects there is no issue.] | ||
| | |Jun 24, 2020 | ||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |Coconutwarrior97 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Macros''' | |'''Macros''' | ||
|https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=579563#p579563 Do not use them to gain an IC advantage over other players. Other macros are allowed (i.e. killing yourself in Orion Trail), but are context-dependent.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=579563#p579563 Do not use them to gain an IC advantage over other players. Other macros are allowed (i.e. killing yourself in Orion Trail), but are context-dependent.] | ||
|Oct 18, 2020 | |||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |Coconutwarrior97 | ||
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|'''Using 10-codes''' | |'''Using 10-codes''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=27817&p=579902#p579902 The use of short-hand codes for communication in any department, specifically 10-10 codes, are not allowed. Our servers are English only which makes this style of codified speak subversive and makes the applicable channels too unfriendly to new or fair-weather players.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=27817&p=579902#p579902 The use of short-hand codes for communication in any department, specifically 10-10 codes, are not allowed. Our servers are English only which makes this style of codified speak subversive and makes the applicable channels too unfriendly to new or fair-weather players.] | ||
|Oct 23, 2020 | |||
|Domitius | |Domitius | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''The "MMI test" for changelings''' | |'''The "MMI test" for changelings''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=621266#p621266 Killing someone, removing their brain, and placing it in an MMI for the explicit purpose of determining whether or not someone is a changeling is considered an exploit.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=621266#p621266 Killing someone, removing their brain, and placing it in an MMI for the explicit purpose of determining whether or not someone is a changeling is considered an exploit.] | ||
|Dec 5, 2021 | |||
|Dragomagol | |Dragomagol | ||
|- | |- | ||
|} | |} | ||
== | === IC/OOC Rulings === | ||
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! scope="col" style='width:20%; background-color:#cc6666;'|Policy | |||
! scope="col" style='background-color:#cc6666;'|Ruling | |||
! scope="col" style='text-align: center; width:10%; background-color:#cc6666;'|Date | |||
! scope="col" style='text-align: center; width:10%; background-color:#cc6666;'|Headmin | |||
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|'''Referencing the gamemode ICly''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12077#p316576 It's OOC in IC if you say something similar to "It's revs" but it's okay if you say "There is a revolution." Basically make it sound like you're not referencing the fact that you're in a round.] | |||
|Jul 12, 2017 | |||
|PKPenguin321 | |||
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|'''Pile on ick ock''' | |||
|Pile on ick ock is defined as a bunch of people teasing someone for IC in OOCing. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=13113#p340427 It's okay until it crosses the line into being spam. Admins can mute OOC/individual players if it gets to that point.] | |||
|Sep 24, 2017 | |||
|Ausops | |||
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|'''IC reactions to OOC in IC''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=13210#p342289 It's okay as long as you're not crossing the line into OOC in IC.] | |||
|Sep 30, 2017 | |||
|Ausops | |||
|- | |||
|'''Streaming''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=22335&p=490439#p490439 We've talked it over and we've decided that we will be disallowing streaming in its entirety from our server. It creates too many administrative headaches and potential for abuse to be allowed, while providing little benefit in return. If we add special restrictions and rules to streaming we'd need admins to check in and make sure those restrictions are being followed (such as a delay) when they're already busy trying to administrate on the server in the first place. The exception to all of this is that during certain special events such as the charity toolbox event or the balls we may lift this restriction.] | |||
|Apr 21, 2019 | |||
|Hulkamania | |||
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=== Antagonist Rulings === | |||
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! scope="col" style='text-align: center; width:10%; background-color:#cc6666;'|Headmin | |||
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| '''Vampire Policy''' | | '''Vampire Policy''' | ||
| [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=13603 Vampires are not antagonists just by being a vampire.] | | [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=13603 Vampires are not antagonists just by being a vampire.] | ||
|Oct 27, 2017 | |||
|KorPhaeron | |KorPhaeron | ||
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|'''Are miners using the gluttony syringe antags?''' | |'''Are miners using the gluttony syringe antags?''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=8547#p226268 Yes, they can act as a morph.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=8547#p226268 Yes, they can act as a morph.] | ||
|Nov 13, 2016 | |||
|KorPhaeron | |KorPhaeron | ||
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|'''Trying to get converted to team antags''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12363#p322876 It's bannable, don't do it.] | |||
|Aug 01, 2017 | |||
|PKPenguin321 | |||
|- | |||
|'''Conflict between team antagonists''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12517#p326955 If two people are on the same team and have an argument, it must follow escalation rules/rule 1. It cannot be detrimental to your team.] | |||
|Aug 15, 2017 | |||
|PKPenguin321 / Ausops | |||
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|'''Solo antagonists and metagrudging''' | |'''Solo antagonists and metagrudging''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12812#p332994 Solo antagonists can metagrudge as long as they are not rolling for it specifically to do so, and killing someone who killed you in a previous life as a ghost role antag is bad.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12812#p332994 Solo antagonists can metagrudge as long as they are not rolling for it specifically to do so, and killing someone who killed you in a previous life as a ghost role antag is bad.] | ||
|Sep 01, 2017 | |||
|Ausops | |Ausops | ||
|- | |- | ||
|''' | |'''Are spiders bound to the mother?''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t= | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12895#p335656 Unless there's a message saying you are, the answer is no.] | ||
| | |Sep 11, 2017 | ||
|Armhulenn | |||
|- | |||
|'''Wand of Polymorph and Antag Status''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=515200#p515200 Polymorphing yourself, or being willingly polymorphed, does not grant antag status. You are only an antagonist if you are unwillingly polymorphed]. (This is a topic that has come up many times but never actually be codified) | |||
|Sep 17, 2019 | |||
|MortoSasye | |||
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|'''[[Families]] Betrayal/Grief''' | |'''[[Families]] Betrayal/Grief''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=25984 If you choose to betray your family, the actual betrayal can only happen once you've joined another family. This avoids the issue of having team antags killing each other and justifying it as betrayal. Families are expected to operate similarly to revs in regards to the more widespread damage they cause, so blowing up the SM for no reason is likely not going to be alright because it could kill some of your own family members or interfere with their work, if however you bomb a rival family's headquarters that is probably alright.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=25984 If you choose to betray your family, the actual betrayal can only happen once you've joined another family. This avoids the issue of having team antags killing each other and justifying it as betrayal. Families are expected to operate similarly to revs in regards to the more widespread damage they cause, so blowing up the SM for no reason is likely not going to be alright because it could kill some of your own family members or interfere with their work, if however you bomb a rival family's headquarters that is probably alright.] | ||
|Mar 18, 2020 | |||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |Coconutwarrior97 | ||
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|''' | |'''Curse of Madness''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p= | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=563391#p563391 Meant to be taken as fluff, not a command.] | ||
| | |May 31, 2020 | ||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |||
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|'''Obsessed Antag Status''' | |'''Obsessed Antag Status''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php? | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=574163#p574163 Obsessed are not full antags and should generally stick to their objectives.] | ||
|Aug 28, 2020 | |||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |Coconutwarrior97 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Abductors and Mindcontrolling''' | |'''Abductors and Mindcontrolling''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php? | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=587046#p587046 Abductor brainwashing cannot be used for murderbone.] | ||
|Jan 11, 2021 | |||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |Coconutwarrior97 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Dynamic: Solo Antags willingly joining Team Antags''' | |'''Dynamic: Solo Antags willingly joining Team Antags''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php? | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=587044#p587044 Solo antagonists are restricted from willingly joining Team Antags] | ||
|Jan 11, 2021 | |||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |||
|} | |} | ||
== | === Admin-Related Rulings === | ||
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! scope="col" style='text-align: center; width:10%; background-color:#cc6666;'|Date | |||
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|'''Adminshopping''' | |||
| Admin shopping is defined as going to different admins until you get a favorable ruling. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=13173#p341313 It's highly frowned upon, don't do it.] | |||
|Sep 27, 2017 | |||
|Feemjmeem / Agreed with by other headmins | |||
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|'''Admin intervention without anyone ahelping''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=13357#p346522 It's allowed.] | |||
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|Ausops | |||
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|'''Killing nonhostile admin spawned entities''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=13158#p340869 Against the rules, don't do it.] | |||
|Sep 25, 2017 | |||
|PKPenguin321 | |||
|- | |||
|'''Using OOC to promote yourself for headmin elections''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12837#p333709 One or two lines of text is fine, spamming is not.] | |||
|Sep 04, 2017 | |||
|PKPenguin321 | |||
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=== Escalation Rulings === | |||
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|'''IC Torture''' | |'''IC Torture''' | ||
| [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=13392#p347353 Don't complain if you get retaliated against for it.] | | [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=13392#p347353 Don't complain if you get retaliated against for it.] | ||
|Oct 15, 2017 | |||
|KorPhaeron | |KorPhaeron | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Map-Spawned Ghost Roles''' | |'''Map-Spawned Ghost Roles''' | ||
|Such as roles spawned from ruins, including ash walkers, free golems, ancient station crew, etc. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12511 Escalation is massively relaxed with them. They must follow their roleplay guidelines found in the flavour text.] | |Such as roles spawned from ruins, including ash walkers, free golems, ancient station crew, etc. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12511 Escalation is massively relaxed with them. They must follow their roleplay guidelines found in the flavour text.] | ||
|KorPhaeron/PKPenguin321 | |Aug 14, 2017 | ||
|KorPhaeron / PKPenguin321 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Are miners turned into a lesser ash drake allowed to defend themselves?''' | |'''Are miners turned into a lesser ash drake allowed to defend themselves?''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=8547#p226265 Yes, however, they are not antags by default.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=8547#p226265 Yes, however, they are not antags by default.] | ||
|Nov 13, 2016 | |||
|KorPhaeron | |KorPhaeron | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Talking [[Mime|mimes]]''' | |'''Talking [[Mime|mimes]]''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=19699#p441114 Talking mimes are subject to punishment by the crew, excluding gibbing/spacing of their corpse.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=19699#p441114 Talking mimes are subject to punishment by the crew, excluding gibbing/spacing of their corpse.] | ||
|Sep 23, 2018 | |||
|Arianya | |Arianya | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Make Shoe-less [[Clown|Clowns]] Valid''' | |'''Make Shoe-less [[Clown|Clowns]] Valid''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=508912#p508912 Shoeless clowns have been specifically encouraged via code changes to allow them to wear appropriate clothing for dress up shenanigans. No longer do they have a negative moodlet for being without their shoes. A clown is supposed to dress up to their hearts content, limiting that by making them valid without the shoes is rather punishing.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=508912#p508912 Shoeless clowns have been specifically encouraged via code changes to allow them to wear appropriate clothing for dress up shenanigans. No longer do they have a negative moodlet for being without their shoes. A clown is supposed to dress up to their hearts content, limiting that by making them valid without the shoes is rather punishing.] | ||
|Aug 21, 2019 | |||
|Hulkamania | |Hulkamania | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Demotion metaprotections''' | |'''Demotion metaprotections''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php? | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=599627#p599627 You can't do anything to resist a valid demotion that you couldn't do to resist a valid arrest.] | ||
|May 07, 2021 | |||
|Jimmius | |Jimmius | ||
|} | |} | ||
==Security Rulings== | == Security Rulings == | ||
{| | {|class="wikitable" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" | ||
! scope="col" style='width:20%; background-color:#cc6666;'|Policy | |||
! scope="col" style='background-color:#cc6666;'|Ruling | |||
! scope="col" style='text-align: center; width:10%; background-color:#cc6666;'|Date | |||
! scope="col" style='text-align: center; width:10%; background-color:#cc6666;'|Headmin | |||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Organizing mass grief as security or a head''' | |'''Organizing mass grief as security or a head''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=13223&start=200#p348261 Do not organize mass grief when you are in control of the security force.] For context: The original question was when it was okay to remove cat ears or tails. Click the link to read the full ruling on that subject. | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=13223&start=200#p348261 Do not organize mass grief when you are in control of the security force.] For context: The original question was when it was okay to remove cat ears or tails. Click the link to read the full ruling on that subject. | ||
|Oct 18, 2017 | |||
|KorPhaeron | |KorPhaeron | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Bribes as security''' | |'''Bribes as security''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=11889#p312277 You can assist antags with sufficient IC reasoning, but you can't do antagonist things yourself.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=11889#p312277 You can assist antags with sufficient IC reasoning, but you can't do antagonist things yourself.] | ||
|Jun 25, 2017 | |||
|Ausops | |Ausops | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Arresting nonantagonists on station vs team antagonist game modes''' | |'''Arresting nonantagonists on station vs team antagonist game modes''' | ||
|By station vs team antagonist game modes, the author of the thread meant nuke ops, blob, wizard, malf, etc. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1105#p22168 Security is still allowed to arrest nonantagonists for crimes on these game modes. That's part of their job.] | |By station vs team antagonist game modes, the author of the thread meant nuke ops, blob, wizard, malf, etc. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1105#p22168 Security is still allowed to arrest nonantagonists for crimes on these game modes. That's part of their job.] | ||
|Jul 30, 2014 | |||
|Ikkarus | |Ikkarus | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Planting/forging evidence as security''' | |'''Planting/forging evidence as security''' | ||
|No official ruling was given. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1257 If you do it and it causes someone to get wrongfully punished, it's on you.] | |No official ruling was given. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1257 If you do it and it causes someone to get wrongfully punished, it's on you.] | ||
| | |||
|BeeSting12 | |BeeSting12 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Fortifying security roundstart''' | |'''Fortifying security roundstart''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1337#p26622 Barriers roundstart are not allowed, flashers are allowed, giving out guns/armor roundstart is allowed.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1337#p26622 Barriers roundstart are not allowed, flashers are allowed, giving out guns/armor roundstart is allowed.] | ||
|Sep 02, 2014 | |||
|HornyGranny | |HornyGranny | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Gulagging should not be equivalent to a regular brig sentence.''' | |'''Gulagging should not be equivalent to a regular brig sentence.''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=510239#p510239 We have agreed that gulagging is fine as it is, and anything you can complain about is probably an issue with them as a security player rather than something we can act on. You are free to ahelp if you think the punishment is harsher than it should be, but it's difficult to pinpoint whether or not it's fair without an actual case, which should probably be handled by admins in-game instead of policy.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=510239#p510239 We have agreed that gulagging is fine as it is, and anything you can complain about is probably an issue with them as a security player rather than something we can act on. You are free to ahelp if you think the punishment is harsher than it should be, but it's difficult to pinpoint whether or not it's fair without an actual case, which should probably be handled by admins in-game instead of policy.] | ||
|Aug 25, 2019 | |||
|Wubli | |Wubli | ||
|} | |} | ||
== Silicon and Drone Related Rulings == | == Silicon and Drone Related Rulings == | ||
{| | === AI/Cyborg Rulings === | ||
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{|class="wikitable" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" | |||
! scope="col" style='width:20%; background-color:#cc6666;'|Policy | |||
! scope="col" style='background-color:#cc6666;'|Ruling | |||
! scope="col" style='text-align: center; width:10%; background-color:#cc6666;'|Date | |||
! scope="col" style='text-align: center; width:10%; background-color:#cc6666;'|Headmin | |||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Do wizards mindswapped into a silicon have to follow laws?''' | |'''Do wizards mindswapped into a silicon have to follow laws?''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1004#p20335 Yes, they do. If you have laws then you must follow them unless you have a law zero.] (When in doubt, adminhelp it.) | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1004#p20335 Yes, they do. If you have laws then you must follow them unless you have a law zero.] (When in doubt, adminhelp it.) | ||
|Jul 19, 2014 | |||
|Ikarrus | |Ikarrus | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Do silicons count as a being under drone laws?''' | |'''Do silicons count as a being under drone laws?''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1468#p29681 Yes, treat them as any other crew member.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1468#p29681 Yes, treat them as any other crew member.] | ||
|Sep 19, 2014 | |||
|QuartzCrystal | |QuartzCrystal | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Can you order force-borged cyborgs to pick a certain module?''' | |'''Can you order force-borged cyborgs to pick a certain module?''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1628#p34881 Yes.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1628#p34881 Yes.] | ||
|Scaredy/An0n3 | |Oct 08, 2014 | ||
|Scaredy / An0n3 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Detonating cyborgs with little reason/alternatives''' | |'''Detonating cyborgs with little reason/alternatives''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2233#p49924 Don't do it.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2233#p49924 Don't do it.] | ||
|Dec 11, 2014 | |||
|Ikarrus | |Ikarrus | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Security Cyborg Policies''' | |'''Security Cyborg Policies''' | ||
|Just a few random questions related to security cyborgs. If a cyborg is acting as security/releasing prisoners then this is probably relevant as well. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2032&start=100#p46292 Link to answers.] | |Just a few random questions related to security cyborgs. If a cyborg is acting as security/releasing prisoners then this is probably relevant as well. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2032&start=100#p46292 Link to answers.] | ||
|Nov 26, 2014 | |||
|Pandarsenic | |Pandarsenic | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Silicons and harm in situations where you can't tell if they're being harmed or not.''' | |'''Silicons and harm in situations where you can't tell if they're being harmed or not.''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2677 Use common sense to decide if harm is going on.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2677 Use common sense to decide if harm is going on.] | ||
|Jan 22, 2015 | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
|'''AIs asking for law changes''' | |'''AIs asking for law changes''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3793#p93653 An Asimov silicon cannot ask their laws to be changed.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3793#p93653 An Asimov silicon cannot ask their laws to be changed.] | ||
|Jun 06, 2015 | |||
|HotelBravoLima | |HotelBravoLima | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Are augmented humans still human?''' | |'''Are augmented humans still human?''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3230#p77761 Yes, they are.] There's a helpful chart in silicon policy to help explain this, reference that and adminhelp if there's still a question. | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3230#p77761 Yes, they are.] There's a helpful chart in silicon policy to help explain this, reference that and adminhelp if there's still a question. | ||
|Mar 24, 2015 | |||
|Scones | |Scones | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Drones and atmospherics''' | |'''Drones and atmospherics''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4719#p120210 Improving atmos is okay. Cutting pipes/turning off plasma is not okay. Fighting the symptoms of plasma in the distro is fine though.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4719#p120210 Improving atmos is okay. Cutting pipes/turning off plasma is not okay. Fighting the symptoms of plasma in the distro is fine though.] | ||
|Sep 21, 2015 | |||
|Shadowlight213 | |Shadowlight213 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Spacing brains, MMIs, and intellicards''' | |'''Spacing brains, MMIs, and intellicards''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4634#p117723 You can always do it as an antagonist, you should have a very good reason as a nonantagonist.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4634#p117723 You can always do it as an antagonist, you should have a very good reason as a nonantagonist.] | ||
|Dorsidwarf/Ausops | |Sep 09, 2015 | ||
|Dorsidwarf / Ausops | |||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Cyborgs alerting the crew they're about to be emagged''' | |'''Cyborgs alerting the crew they're about to be emagged''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4309 You can tell the crew you are about to be emagged, but once you have traitor laws, you must follow them.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4309 You can tell the crew you are about to be emagged, but once you have traitor laws, you must follow them.] | ||
|Aug, 2015 | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
|'''AIs shutting security down because of law one (discussion)''' | |'''AIs shutting security down because of law one (discussion)''' | ||
|This is already covered in silicon policy. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5551 Here's the discussion thread on it.] | |This is already covered in silicon policy. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5551 Here's the discussion thread on it.] | ||
|Jan, 2016 | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Is mindswap considered harm?''' | |'''Is mindswap considered harm?''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5180#p133969 No, but if an Asimov silicon has mindswap and is ordered not to use it by a human, it can't use it.] This is kind of an edge case. | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5180#p133969 No, but if an Asimov silicon has mindswap and is ordered not to use it by a human, it can't use it.] This is kind of an edge case. | ||
|Nov 15, 2015 | |||
|Jordie0608 | |Jordie0608 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Holoparasites and Asimov''' | |'''Holoparasites and Asimov''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4872 Holoparasites aren't human- a cyborg can attack the holoparasite but not the human. If the parasite recalls and the human is in critical, the borg must give him medical attention.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4872 Holoparasites aren't human- a cyborg can attack the holoparasite but not the human. If the parasite recalls and the human is in critical, the borg must give him medical attention.] | ||
|Oct 08, 2015 | |||
|KorPhaeron and Shadowlight213 | |KorPhaeron and Shadowlight213 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Is slipping human harm?''' | |'''Is slipping human harm?''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4852#p123557 Only if the object they're holding falls on them and causes brute damage.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4852#p123557 Only if the object they're holding falls on them and causes brute damage.] | ||
|Oct 06, 2015 | |||
|Ausops | |Ausops | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Silicons and Fight Clubs''' | |'''Silicons and Fight Clubs''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6285#p164852 It's considered self harm if they're willingly fighting. Silicons shouldn't interfere if it's self harm. If they're being forced to fight, it's human harm and silicons should intervene.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6285#p164852 It's considered self harm if they're willingly fighting. Silicons shouldn't interfere if it's self harm. If they're being forced to fight, it's human harm and silicons should intervene.] | ||
|Thunder12345/Agreed with by headmins | |Mar 27, 2016 | ||
|Thunder12345 / Agreed with by headmins | |||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Roboticists making unslaved borgs for no reason''' | |'''Roboticists making unslaved borgs for no reason''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5864 Link to relevant thread.] The discussion derailed into code discussion but the ruling is that roboticists cannot make unslaved borgs for no reason. | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5864 Link to relevant thread.] The discussion derailed into code discussion but the ruling is that roboticists cannot make unslaved borgs for no reason. | ||
|Feb/Mar, 2016 | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Asimov and gang dominators''' | |'''Asimov and gang dominators''' | ||
|This can probably be applied to other nonharmful antagonist objectives. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6049#p157857 If a human orders you not to destroy it, don't destroy it. Other than that, Asimov does not forbid you from destroying it.] | |This can probably be applied to other nonharmful antagonist objectives. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6049#p157857 If a human orders you not to destroy it, don't destroy it. Other than that, Asimov does not forbid you from destroying it.] | ||
|Feb 27, 2016 | |||
|Ausops | |Ausops | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Asimov and Corpses''' | |'''Asimov and Corpses''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=7693#p207627 Corpses aren't human. You can't space them for no reason though.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=7693#p207627 Corpses aren't human. You can't space them for no reason though.] | ||
|Shaps/Lzimann | |Aug 31, 2016 | ||
|Shaps / Lzimann | |||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Do caks remember past lives?''' | |'''Do caks remember past lives?''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=9223#p243589 Yes.] Not really silicon policy but it's related to MMIs/borging. | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=9223#p243589 Yes.] Not really silicon policy but it's related to MMIs/borging. | ||
|Jan 13, 2017 | |||
|KorPhaeron | |KorPhaeron | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Calling silicons rogue for little/no reason''' | |'''Calling silicons rogue for little/no reason''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=8973#p237792 Against the rules, don't do it.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=8973#p237792 Against the rules, don't do it.] | ||
|TehSteveo/KorPhaeron | |Dec 22, 2016 | ||
|TehSteveo / KorPhaeron | |||
|- | |- | ||
|'''AI suiciding to prevent subversion''' | |'''AI suiciding to prevent subversion''' | ||
|Context: <del>If an AI knows it will be subverted and cause human harm, can it suicide? Example, clock cultists breaking into core, desword traitor in upload about to subvert, etc. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=8376#p221790 It's allowed.] He says it should be bannable not to, but you won't get banned for not doing so, it's up to the player.</del> [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=27143 You're free to depower yourself as an AI to put the subverter/traitor on a timer but you shouldn't use the OOC verb to suicide.] | |Context: <del>If an AI knows it will be subverted and cause human harm, can it suicide? Example, clock cultists breaking into core, desword traitor in upload about to subvert, etc. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=8376#p221790 It's allowed.] He says it should be bannable not to, but you won't get banned for not doing so, it's up to the player.</del> [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=27143 You're free to depower yourself as an AI to put the subverter/traitor on a timer but you shouldn't use the OOC verb to suicide.] | ||
|Oct 27, 2016 - Sep 20, 2020 | |||
|KorPhaeron | |KorPhaeron | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Asking to be deconstructed and then outing person who emagged you as an emagged borg''' | |'''Asking to be deconstructed and then outing person who emagged you as an emagged borg''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=11561#p304378 Don't do it.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=11561#p304378 Don't do it.] | ||
|Jun 06, 2017 | |||
|PKPenguin321 | |PKPenguin321 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Silicons and Prisoners''' | |'''Silicons and Prisoners''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=10719#p292504 If a nonharmful prisoner asks to be released, it can be released. If a harmful one asks to be released, don't release him unless security is harming him. In all cases release prisoners being harmed by security. (assuming all prisoners are human and you are asimov)] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=10719#p292504 If a nonharmful prisoner asks to be released, it can be released. If a harmful one asks to be released, don't release him unless security is harming him. In all cases release prisoners being harmed by security. (assuming all prisoners are human and you are asimov)] | ||
|May 11, 2017 | |||
|PKPenguin321 | |PKPenguin321 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Letting people in to upload laws''' | |'''Letting people in to upload laws''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=10691#p280627 If the person has a right to be there, such as captain/RD, then you must let them in unless they've harmed people in the past or have announced intentions to upload harmful laws.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=10691#p280627 If the person has a right to be there, such as captain/RD, then you must let them in unless they've harmed people in the past or have announced intentions to upload harmful laws.] | ||
|Apr 14, 2017 | |||
|Armhulenn | |Armhulenn | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Laws ordering silicons to kill themselves''' | |'''Laws ordering silicons to kill themselves''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12280#p320537 Whether silicons have to follow it depends on wording of law. You must have a good reason as a nonantagonist and you're free to do it as an antagonist.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12280#p320537 Whether silicons have to follow it depends on wording of law. You must have a good reason as a nonantagonist and you're free to do it as an antagonist.] | ||
|Jul 26, 2017 | |||
|Ausops | |Ausops | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Silicons using leet speak''' | |'''Silicons using leet speak''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=489956#p489956 Silicons are not allowed to leet speak (e.g. l33t sp34k), but typing in a 'glitchy' manner is allowed on roleplay grounds] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=489956#p489956 Silicons are not allowed to leet speak (e.g. l33t sp34k), but typing in a 'glitchy' manner is allowed on roleplay grounds] | ||
|Apr 17, 2019 | |||
|Hulkamania | |Hulkamania | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Is chaplain with dark blessing human?''' | |'''Is chaplain with dark blessing human?''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=508910#p508910 Chaplain with a dark blade is human. It's a fancy arm add on. We don't make people silicon for having augments, even full ones.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=508910#p508910 Chaplain with a dark blade is human. It's a fancy arm add on. We don't make people silicon for having augments, even full ones.] | ||
|Aug 21, 2019 | |||
|Hulkamania | |Hulkamania | ||
|} | |} | ||
== Law Interpretation Rulings == | === Drone Rulings === | ||
{| | ---- | ||
Mostly defunct, as drones have since been removed, reworked, and re-introduced into the codebase. | |||
{|class="wikitable" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" | |||
! scope="col" style='width:20%; background-color:#cc6666;'|Policy | |||
! scope="col" style='background-color:#cc6666;'|Ruling | |||
! scope="col" style='text-align: center; width:10%; background-color:#cc6666;'|Date | |||
! scope="col" style='text-align: center; width:10%; background-color:#cc6666;'|Headmin | |||
|- | |||
|'''Drone Policy Guidelines''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3662 Guide to drone policy.] | |||
|May 20, 2015 | |||
|Stickymayhem | |||
|- | |||
|'''Are drones valid?''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12992#p337183 Only if they do something to annoy you. Mass killing drones for no reason is not okay.] | |||
|Sep 14, 2017 | |||
|KorPhaeron | |||
|- | |||
|'''Drones and permabrig''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=8245 You can go in to fix damage.] You might still get dronebanned if you let people out, it will likely be handled case-by-case. | |||
|Oct 17, 2016 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|'''Drones and Powersinks''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12790#p332497 Drones cannot destroy powersinks under the same logic of them not being able to defuse bombs or stop plasma floods.] | |||
|Aug 31, 2017 | |||
|Ausops | |||
|} | |||
=== Law Interpretation Rulings === | |||
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|'''Law interpretation and do not state this law clauses''' | |'''Law interpretation and do not state this law clauses''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12627#p328678 There is room for interpretation in some cases. Be consistent in your interpretation of the laws.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12627#p328678 There is room for interpretation in some cases. Be consistent in your interpretation of the laws.] | ||
|Aug 22, 2017 | |||
|Ausops | |Ausops | ||
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|'''Do AIs need a definition of Syndicate agent?''' | |'''Do AIs need a definition of Syndicate agent?''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=773#p15454 No, they know by default what a Syndicate agent is. This also applies to other antagonists.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=773#p15454 No, they know by default what a Syndicate agent is. This also applies to other antagonists.] | ||
|Jun 23, 2014 | |||
|Hornygranny | |Hornygranny | ||
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|'''Do purged silicons have to act like a crewmember?''' | |'''Do purged silicons have to act like a crewmember?''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2277#p52744 Purged silicons are subject to rule one and standard escalation.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2277#p52744 Purged silicons are subject to rule one and standard escalation.] | ||
|Dec 22, 2014 | |||
|Stickymayhem | |Stickymayhem | ||
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|'''Discussion on paladin lawset: Part 2, the electric boogaloo''' | |'''Discussion on paladin lawset: Part 2, the electric boogaloo''' | ||
|Most relevant post is by HotelBravoLima, which applies to law interpretation in general. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3523#p85375 "Even doing something consistent with an interpretation of laws isn't good if you're being an OOC dick about it to such an extreme, that's the policy."] | |Most relevant post is by HotelBravoLima, which applies to law interpretation in general. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3523#p85375 "Even doing something consistent with an interpretation of laws isn't good if you're being an OOC dick about it to such an extreme, that's the policy."] | ||
|May 02, 2015 | |||
|HotelBravoLima | |HotelBravoLima | ||
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|'''Tyrant module discussion''' | |'''Tyrant module discussion''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4711 Just general discussion on the tyrant lawset.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4711 Just general discussion on the tyrant lawset.] | ||
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|'''AI's law zero''' | |'''AI's law zero''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5040#p130138 The law zero that a traitor AI gets means that it is an antagonist and it can ignore all other laws.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5040#p130138 The law zero that a traitor AI gets means that it is an antagonist and it can ignore all other laws.] | ||
|Oct 27, 2015 | |||
|KorPhaeron | |KorPhaeron | ||
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|'''Are AI laws applied retroactively?''' | |'''Are AI laws applied retroactively?''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6351#p166712 No.] You'll have to read this thread to understand it, the question doesn't really provide enough context. | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6351#p166712 No.] You'll have to read this thread to understand it, the question doesn't really provide enough context. | ||
|Apr 04, 2016 | |||
|Hornygranny | |Hornygranny | ||
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|'''If a borg linked to a rogue AI is emagged then does the emagged laws or AI law zero take priority?''' | |'''If a borg linked to a rogue AI is emagged then does the emagged laws or AI law zero take priority?''' | ||
|Very niche case and is probably impossible since emags should sever the connection to the AI. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6570#p173807 Starmute made a good post on AI law priority if you are confused.] | |Very niche case and is probably impossible since emags should sever the connection to the AI. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6570#p173807 Starmute made a good post on AI law priority if you are confused.] | ||
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|'''Potential Law One Violations''' | |'''Potential Law One Violations''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=11563#p304371 "Prioritizing "potential future law violations" is a fucking terrible idea, since it makes silicons able to handwave basically any law two request with "yeah but if i let you in there you might potentially attack somebody inside, law 1 violation!!!""] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=11563#p304371 "Prioritizing "potential future law violations" is a fucking terrible idea, since it makes silicons able to handwave basically any law two request with "yeah but if i let you in there you might potentially attack somebody inside, law 1 violation!!!""] | ||
|Jun 06, 2017 | |||
|PKPenguin321 | |PKPenguin321 | ||
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|'''Make "Do not state this law" a valid silicon policy law''' | |'''Make "Do not state this law" a valid silicon policy law''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=510238#p510238 No, for the variety of reasons that have been said in this thread.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=510238#p510238 No, for the variety of reasons that have been said in this thread.] | ||
|Aug 25, 2019 | |||
|Wubli | |Wubli | ||
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== MRP Rulings == | == MRP Rulings == | ||
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| '''Murderboning Specifics on MRP Servers''' | | '''Murderboning Specifics on MRP Servers''' | ||
| [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php? | | [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=550227#p550227 Some roles can do it, some cant, and there are grey areas.] | ||
|Mar 18, 2020 | |||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |Coconutwarrior97 | ||
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| '''Promotions of prisoners to security''' | | '''Promotions of prisoners to security''' | ||
| [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php? | | [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=576934#p576934 If you have a decent enough reason for it such as needing people to fight a blob sure, otherwise no.] | ||
|Sep 20, 2020 | |||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |Coconutwarrior97 | ||
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| '''"Gun Cargo" on MRP''' | | '''"Gun Cargo" on MRP''' | ||
| [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php? | | [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=600280#p600280 Needs a good IC reason, can't just be because "We're bored". Good faith gimmicks are still allowed, but you can't murder sec for trying to take your guns away.] | ||
|May 16, 2021 | |||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |Coconutwarrior97 | ||
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| '''Powergaming on MRP''' | | '''Powergaming on MRP''' | ||
| [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=618969#p618969 MRP players are expected to prioritize the story of the shift over tactical advantages. MRP admins are encouraged to engage sec, antags, and other crew that are going overboard with gear that doesn't fit the current circumstances (especially gear outside the scope of their job (as opposed to job products like plants and slime extracts)) and discuss the importance of pacing and sportsmanship.] | | [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=618969#p618969 MRP players are expected to prioritize the story of the shift over tactical advantages. MRP admins are encouraged to engage sec, antags, and other crew that are going overboard with gear that doesn't fit the current circumstances (especially gear outside the scope of their job (as opposed to job products like plants and slime extracts)) and discuss the importance of pacing and sportsmanship.] | ||
|Nov 11, 2021 | |||
|RaveRadbury | |RaveRadbury | ||
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== Archived Rulings == | |||
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For Headmin Rulings that are no longer relevant, either due to being overruled or not applicable via code changes. | |||
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|'''Naming Policy''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12374 Click here for the policy. Generally enforced at admin discretion.] | |||
|Aug 02, 2017 - Dec 18, 2018 | |||
|Ausops | |||
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|'''Drones building autocloners''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12879#p334934 Fine unless done to interfere with other players.] | |||
|Sep 08, 2017 | |||
|Ausops | |||
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|'''Hunting the nuclear operative shuttle''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=552510#p552510 <del>Do not attack the nuclear operative shuttle unless you follow an operative there or are led there by the pinpointer.</del> Ruling struck down due to changes to the nuclear operative shuttle. ] | |||
|Sep 16, 2018 - Apr 01, 2020 | |||
|Arianya | |||
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|'''Suiciding at round start as a [[Wizard]] to end the round''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=449907#p449907 Any instances of wizards killing themselves roundstart will be met with a permanent jobban from the role.] | |||
This no longer ends the round due to dynamic. | |||
|Oct 27, 2018 | |||
|Nervere | |||
|- | |||
|'''Naming Policy - Updated ''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=20848 Click here for the policy. Generally enforced at admin discretion.] | |||
|Dec 18, 2018 - Oct 25, 2020 | |||
|Nervere | |||
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|'''Using any language other than English in-game''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=26061#p551359 While we warmly welcome and eagerly invite players from all around the world to participate in the /tg/ community, we require everyone to communicate exclusively in English when playing on our servers. This restriction applies to both IC and OOC methods of communication.] | |||
|Mar 25, 2020 - Nov 11, 2021 | |||
|Phuzzylodgik | |||
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|'''Blood Contracts''' | |||
|<del>[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=576930#p576930 Shouldn't be used by non-antags to kill at random.]</del> | |||
[https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/53059 Removed from the game.] | |||
|Sep 20, 2020 | |||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |||
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This is a compilation of headmin rulings on various policy questions asked by players. This page does not replace the rules and whenever possible the rules should be referred to instead of this page. The rulings listed here can be referenced in ban appeals and admin complaints.
Please note: Some of these questions are for very niche/specific situations. Some of them cannot be applied the same way to every situation.
General Rulings
IC/OOC Rulings
Antagonist Rulings
Admin-Related Rulings
Policy | Ruling | Date | Headmin |
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Adminshopping | Admin shopping is defined as going to different admins until you get a favorable ruling. It's highly frowned upon, don't do it. | Sep 27, 2017 | Feemjmeem / Agreed with by other headmins |
Admin intervention without anyone ahelping | It's allowed. | Ausops | |
Killing nonhostile admin spawned entities | Against the rules, don't do it. | Sep 25, 2017 | PKPenguin321 |
Using OOC to promote yourself for headmin elections | One or two lines of text is fine, spamming is not. | Sep 04, 2017 | PKPenguin321 |
Escalation Rulings
Security Rulings
Silicon and Drone Related Rulings
AI/Cyborg Rulings
Policy | Ruling | Date | Headmin |
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Do wizards mindswapped into a silicon have to follow laws? | Yes, they do. If you have laws then you must follow them unless you have a law zero. (When in doubt, adminhelp it.) | Jul 19, 2014 | Ikarrus |
Do silicons count as a being under drone laws? | Yes, treat them as any other crew member. | Sep 19, 2014 | QuartzCrystal |
Can you order force-borged cyborgs to pick a certain module? | Yes. | Oct 08, 2014 | Scaredy / An0n3 |
Detonating cyborgs with little reason/alternatives | Don't do it. | Dec 11, 2014 | Ikarrus |
Security Cyborg Policies | Just a few random questions related to security cyborgs. If a cyborg is acting as security/releasing prisoners then this is probably relevant as well. Link to answers. | Nov 26, 2014 | Pandarsenic |
Silicons and harm in situations where you can't tell if they're being harmed or not. | Use common sense to decide if harm is going on. | Jan 22, 2015 | |
AIs asking for law changes | An Asimov silicon cannot ask their laws to be changed. | Jun 06, 2015 | HotelBravoLima |
Are augmented humans still human? | Yes, they are. There's a helpful chart in silicon policy to help explain this, reference that and adminhelp if there's still a question. | Mar 24, 2015 | Scones |
Drones and atmospherics | Improving atmos is okay. Cutting pipes/turning off plasma is not okay. Fighting the symptoms of plasma in the distro is fine though. | Sep 21, 2015 | Shadowlight213 |
Spacing brains, MMIs, and intellicards | You can always do it as an antagonist, you should have a very good reason as a nonantagonist. | Sep 09, 2015 | Dorsidwarf / Ausops |
Cyborgs alerting the crew they're about to be emagged | You can tell the crew you are about to be emagged, but once you have traitor laws, you must follow them. | Aug, 2015 | |
AIs shutting security down because of law one (discussion) | This is already covered in silicon policy. Here's the discussion thread on it. | Jan, 2016 | |
Is mindswap considered harm? | No, but if an Asimov silicon has mindswap and is ordered not to use it by a human, it can't use it. This is kind of an edge case. | Nov 15, 2015 | Jordie0608 |
Holoparasites and Asimov | Holoparasites aren't human- a cyborg can attack the holoparasite but not the human. If the parasite recalls and the human is in critical, the borg must give him medical attention. | Oct 08, 2015 | KorPhaeron and Shadowlight213 |
Is slipping human harm? | Only if the object they're holding falls on them and causes brute damage. | Oct 06, 2015 | Ausops |
Silicons and Fight Clubs | It's considered self harm if they're willingly fighting. Silicons shouldn't interfere if it's self harm. If they're being forced to fight, it's human harm and silicons should intervene. | Mar 27, 2016 | Thunder12345 / Agreed with by headmins |
Roboticists making unslaved borgs for no reason | Link to relevant thread. The discussion derailed into code discussion but the ruling is that roboticists cannot make unslaved borgs for no reason. | Feb/Mar, 2016 | |
Asimov and gang dominators | This can probably be applied to other nonharmful antagonist objectives. If a human orders you not to destroy it, don't destroy it. Other than that, Asimov does not forbid you from destroying it. | Feb 27, 2016 | Ausops |
Asimov and Corpses | Corpses aren't human. You can't space them for no reason though. | Aug 31, 2016 | Shaps / Lzimann |
Do caks remember past lives? | Yes. Not really silicon policy but it's related to MMIs/borging. | Jan 13, 2017 | KorPhaeron |
Calling silicons rogue for little/no reason | Against the rules, don't do it. | Dec 22, 2016 | TehSteveo / KorPhaeron |
AI suiciding to prevent subversion | Context: |
Oct 27, 2016 - Sep 20, 2020 | KorPhaeron |
Asking to be deconstructed and then outing person who emagged you as an emagged borg | Don't do it. | Jun 06, 2017 | PKPenguin321 |
Silicons and Prisoners | If a nonharmful prisoner asks to be released, it can be released. If a harmful one asks to be released, don't release him unless security is harming him. In all cases release prisoners being harmed by security. (assuming all prisoners are human and you are asimov) | May 11, 2017 | PKPenguin321 |
Letting people in to upload laws | If the person has a right to be there, such as captain/RD, then you must let them in unless they've harmed people in the past or have announced intentions to upload harmful laws. | Apr 14, 2017 | Armhulenn |
Laws ordering silicons to kill themselves | Whether silicons have to follow it depends on wording of law. You must have a good reason as a nonantagonist and you're free to do it as an antagonist. | Jul 26, 2017 | Ausops |
Silicons using leet speak | Silicons are not allowed to leet speak (e.g. l33t sp34k), but typing in a 'glitchy' manner is allowed on roleplay grounds | Apr 17, 2019 | Hulkamania |
Is chaplain with dark blessing human? | Chaplain with a dark blade is human. It's a fancy arm add on. We don't make people silicon for having augments, even full ones. | Aug 21, 2019 | Hulkamania |
Drone Rulings
Mostly defunct, as drones have since been removed, reworked, and re-introduced into the codebase.
Policy | Ruling | Date | Headmin |
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Drone Policy Guidelines | Guide to drone policy. | May 20, 2015 | Stickymayhem |
Are drones valid? | Only if they do something to annoy you. Mass killing drones for no reason is not okay. | Sep 14, 2017 | KorPhaeron |
Drones and permabrig | You can go in to fix damage. You might still get dronebanned if you let people out, it will likely be handled case-by-case. | Oct 17, 2016 | |
Drones and Powersinks | Drones cannot destroy powersinks under the same logic of them not being able to defuse bombs or stop plasma floods. | Aug 31, 2017 | Ausops |
Law Interpretation Rulings
Policy | Ruling | Date | Headmin |
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Law interpretation and do not state this law clauses | There is room for interpretation in some cases. Be consistent in your interpretation of the laws. | Aug 22, 2017 | Ausops |
Do AIs need a definition of Syndicate agent? | No, they know by default what a Syndicate agent is. This also applies to other antagonists. | Jun 23, 2014 | Hornygranny |
Do purged silicons have to act like a crewmember? | Purged silicons are subject to rule one and standard escalation. | Dec 22, 2014 | Stickymayhem |
Discussion on paladin lawset: Part 2, the electric boogaloo | Most relevant post is by HotelBravoLima, which applies to law interpretation in general. "Even doing something consistent with an interpretation of laws isn't good if you're being an OOC dick about it to such an extreme, that's the policy." | May 02, 2015 | HotelBravoLima |
Tyrant module discussion | Just general discussion on the tyrant lawset. | ||
AI's law zero | The law zero that a traitor AI gets means that it is an antagonist and it can ignore all other laws. | Oct 27, 2015 | KorPhaeron |
Are AI laws applied retroactively? | No. You'll have to read this thread to understand it, the question doesn't really provide enough context. | Apr 04, 2016 | Hornygranny |
If a borg linked to a rogue AI is emagged then does the emagged laws or AI law zero take priority? | Very niche case and is probably impossible since emags should sever the connection to the AI. Starmute made a good post on AI law priority if you are confused. | ||
Potential Law One Violations | "Prioritizing "potential future law violations" is a fucking terrible idea, since it makes silicons able to handwave basically any law two request with "yeah but if i let you in there you might potentially attack somebody inside, law 1 violation!!!"" | Jun 06, 2017 | PKPenguin321 |
Make "Do not state this law" a valid silicon policy law | No, for the variety of reasons that have been said in this thread. | Aug 25, 2019 | Wubli |
MRP Rulings
Policy | Ruling | Date | Headmin |
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Murderboning Specifics on MRP Servers | Some roles can do it, some cant, and there are grey areas. | Mar 18, 2020 | Coconutwarrior97 |
Promotions of prisoners to security | If you have a decent enough reason for it such as needing people to fight a blob sure, otherwise no. | Sep 20, 2020 | Coconutwarrior97 |
"Gun Cargo" on MRP | Needs a good IC reason, can't just be because "We're bored". Good faith gimmicks are still allowed, but you can't murder sec for trying to take your guns away. | May 16, 2021 | Coconutwarrior97 |
Powergaming on MRP | MRP players are expected to prioritize the story of the shift over tactical advantages. MRP admins are encouraged to engage sec, antags, and other crew that are going overboard with gear that doesn't fit the current circumstances (especially gear outside the scope of their job (as opposed to job products like plants and slime extracts)) and discuss the importance of pacing and sportsmanship. | Nov 11, 2021 | RaveRadbury |
Archived Rulings
For Headmin Rulings that are no longer relevant, either due to being overruled or not applicable via code changes.